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Hitler was Christian by FlacidPenis Hitler was Christian by FlacidPenis
"BUT HITLUR WUZ ATHEEST"

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Hitler was raised Catholic, regularly invoked Jesus in his speeches and spoke often of his and the German peoples' "manifest destiny", which isn't very atheist at all. He also thought that he was fighting for God's work by killing Jews, and although he also persecuted the Catholic Church and some Prostestant churches later on, he never ceaed being a theist, in fact, he was actually and always Catholic and was never excommunicated from the Catholic Church and the book "Mein Kampf" was not placed on the Church's index of forbidden books. And yes, the Catholic Church supported Nazis and the killing of the Jews.

And regarding atheism, Hitler opposed it in a 1933 speech in Berlin: "We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.”

And due to Hitler's involvement with the Church, he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion (citation needed?), raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home, and many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teaching: “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.” –Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.” -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism

Hitler was actually religious, and yes, the Catholic church is racist, the more you know.

TL;DR: Hitler was a religious dick.
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OnlyTheGhosts Featured By Owner 14 hours ago
This is ignorant bullshit. He wasn't Christian at all, he just used the veneer of Christianity for political purposes and admitted this. Everyone who knew him privately knew that Adolf Hitler was an atheist.
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Calypsoeclipse Featured By Owner 6 days ago  Student Traditional Artist
 Evans wrote that Hitler repeatedly stated that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science, which in the long run could not "co-exist with religion".[
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner 21 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
An yet Hitler was still a Christian. Because those two things are not mutually exclusive, because he was right: The Nazi regime was a totalitarian dictatorship that couldn't co-exist with any power structure that wasn't controlled by the government regime. That wasn't just religion, it also included things like workers unions.
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61021376 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2015
I just see how you suddenly believe everything Hitler said in his propaganda speeches because it suits your views. Of course he'll use Christianity in his speeches, most Germans were Christian. I note that all your citations of Hitler talking about Christianity come from his speeches. No wonder.
He outlawed abortion because he was obsessed with growing more German babies.
Homosexuals were considered as mentally ill at the time, plus they couldnt be fathers and mothers (again the idea of spreading Aryan race). Banning homosexuality had little to do with religion.
Corporal punishment is not a Christian thing you sicko.

On the other hand marxism and eugenics (two fundamentals of Nazism) are two atheist thingies. Just saying.
Just quit the antagonizing bullshit. Just because he was an atheist (or does it matter really) doesnt mean atheism is evil.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner 21 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
"Corporal punishment is not a Christian thing you sicko."

LOL, maybe you should read your bible because corporal punishment was essentially the only type of punishment in the bible, advocated for BY the bible.

"On the other hand marxism and eugenics (two fundamentals of Nazism) are two atheist thingies. "

No they aren't. Atheism is simply the lack of a belief in god claims: That has nothing to do with either Marxism or Eugenics.

You are going to have to accept that all evidence overwhelmingly suggests that Hitler was Christian.
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61021376 Featured By Owner 15 hours ago
Well, I guess corporal punishment is as christian as marxism and eugenics are atheist concepts. They may be consequences. Would Darwin be a Christian? Would anyone in the 1930s who believe in eugenics be a christian?
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner 14 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
"Well, I guess corporal punishment is as christian as marxism and eugenics are atheist concepts."

Nope, sorry but your holy book, the supposedly perfect word of your chosen god, the thing you are meant to be aspiring to is predicated on the idea of punishment, in which corporal punishment is the go to. Heck that's the entire premise of the original sin concept & the ridiculous scape-goating that results in the entire second act.

So no, those two things can't be compared: Objectively atheism has nothing to do with either Eugenics or Marxism. Unfortunately for your position, Christianity specifically DOES objectively have something to do with corporal punishment, by your own words & the words of your supposedly inerrant holy text.

What you just attempted to create is called a false dichotomy.
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61021376 Featured By Owner 14 hours ago
You've not answered my questions. There rests my point.
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner 13 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I chose not to answer it because it was entirely immaterial to our conversation. Eugenics is a concept to improve breeding stock has been around & in practice for hundreds of thousands of years, heck that's were we got domesticated dogs from, it's what we still do livestock today. Eugenics isn't an ideology, it's a science, it's information: Information has no moral standing, it simply exists as information, it's merit comes from how it is used.

That's why I didn't bother to answer your question, because it was both malformed & irrelevant to our discussion.
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61021376 Featured By Owner 12 hours ago
And for some reason, it wasnt applied to humans until Darwin's time, then Hitler's. Why that? because in a religious mindset, God created the man on His own model.:icontrollrollplz:
Now about the science of eugenics
If it's used and politically implemented to improve the human race, isnt it an ideology?
Would it be used on such a broad scale by someone who believes God created humans?
Just quit the "atheism vs christianity" fake dichotomy and suddenly History is less conveniently simple as "Hitler was/wasnt a Christian".:iconfishieplz:
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matthew-lane Featured By Owner 11 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
"And for some reason, it wasnt applied to humans until Darwin's time, then Hitler's."

/facepalm

Except it was: Plato discussed such a concept 400 BCE to make a guardian class of protectors, an idea put into practice by the Spartans (who practiced a brutal form of survival of the fittest selective breeding). It was practiced by countless royal lines across Europe through out history on the basis of the flawed concept of "royal blood lines" among humans (with disastrous results).

THIS is why your statement is both malformed (in that you are making incorrect assumptions about history) & also irrelevant to this discussion.

As for why it became popular in the late 1800's & early 1900's is simply because the naturalist mechanism was accurately explained for the first time.

At which point the British Eugenics Education Society and the American Eugenics Society were created. Both sought & received support from leading clergymen, and modified their message to meet religious ideals. (Citation in case you are interested in doing some actual reading shm.oxfordjournals.org/content… )

"Just quit the "atheism vs christianity" fake dichotomy"

There is no "Atheism vs Christianity" in this conversation: There is just your misunderstanding of history & the facts that demonstrate your misunderstanding of history.
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BrexiThePotato Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
indeed m8
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TutanTurkeyTail Featured By Owner May 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
But that doesn't make all Christians bad.
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Blueneonkid Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Still doesn't mean he went to Heaven, God does not like unjust murder.
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gwarnage Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
actually , hitler disapproved of christianity (mainly due to it's jewish origins)
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ADE-doodles Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  Professional General Artist
"The old beliefs will be brought back to honor again.
The whole secret knowledge of nature, of the divine, the demonic.
We will wash off the Christian veneer and bring out a religion peculiar to our race."
Adolf Hitler

Hitler was into spiritualism and paganism, consulted medians and psychics, and hated the Jews and others who the bible says Christians should love. He exalted "Aryans" based on old Euro/Hindu pagan ideas. As were the symbols of Nazism. the swastiki a Hindu/Norse pagan symbol and other pagan mystical Runes were everywhere in Nazi art, uniforms, rings etc.. Himler, Hitler's right hand, has overtly committed to occultism, Hitler shut down church orgs and church youth groups as competition to the party loyalty.  Five days after becoming Chancellor in 1933,  had the Catholic Youth League disbanded. The latter it was applied to other youth organizations too in order to free up young people to join the Hitler Youth. When the Church organized voluntary out-of-hours religious classes, the Nazi government responded by banning state-employed teachers from taking part.
A Hitler Youth marching song sung was: "We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel, Away with incense and Holy Water, The Church can go hang for all we care, The Swastika brings salvation on Earth. "
Hitler had school children sing "HITLER is my savior" "Hitler is my Lord" the way we say the pledge of allegiance in the U.S. .www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1azHY…

Hitler produced propaganda film (played in every theater in Germany) that promoted euthanasia because kindness to the weak and infirm (Christianity) was a "transgression" against the laws of "natural selection" - evolution-. The Whole racial superiority issues was couched in "evolutionary science" and survival of the fittest. With a wrapper of pagan Teutonic Bloodline cult pride.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOcbk…

If you ignore all the above and still claim that Hitler was "a christian" you're just not being honest.
the fact is Hitler used Christianity politically until he didn't need it. But wrote that it would be overthrown by his weird stew of Aryan supremacist scientific paganism, Nazism.

It's just pop anti-thesit propaganda that promotes the idea that "Hitler was a Christian"

the more you know...
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eggzat Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015
Actually he was roman catholic but hey close enough.
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He didn't allow abortions for pure-blooded Germans, but forced them on non-Aryans.
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OfficerMT Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015
So now what? Are you...are you gonna, castrate me cuz I'm Christian? Are you gonna, call me a waste of space? Oh, certainly. After all, if Hitler was Christian, then Christians must all be bad.

Oh, wait, didn't Stalin kill 50 million people? That's right! He was a militant atheist that killed religious people, among others.

Guess atheists are bad too. XP
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I think the real point which should be taken from this stamp is that an individual does not personify a faith or lack-there-of. Judge the validity of a belief based on the belief, not on the behavior of its believers. 

The person who made this stamp is being somewhat hypocritical. I will admit that. 
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Twilightlover2007 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Even if Hitler was the only sinner in the world Jesus still would've died for him.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
A nice sentiment. 
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HEIL HITLER.


I am not sorry.

But valid point.
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Spunnyz Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
my question is, why are people arguing about Hitler's religion.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Because it's hard to have a rational discussion about the existence of god without a Christian using Hitler as proof of the "evil nature" of Atheism. This is just an ironic backlash.
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Spunnyz Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Oh, oh wow.

I'm a Christian, but I will never bring the topic of Adolf Hitler when it comes to a conversation about religion. Each day I spend on the internet, my shame of believing in Christ grows.  They're all out to get me... 
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I used to be a Christian. Grew up in a Young Earth Creationist/Southern Baptist household. But then I started being objective and I couldn't do it anymore, so I became an Atheist. Best decision I've ever made. 
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Spunnyz Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Your decision, mate. I respect that.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I kinda wish that more people would be objective about their beliefs, rather than just accepting the beliefs instilled on them as children. Even if their objectivity leads them into other religions or obscure philosophies. Just the idea of everyone having all of the choices in front of them and having the ability to choose objectively without the beliefs of their parents or their society making the decision for them. That would be nice. 
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Spunnyz Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I guess so. Even I'm being to question the beliefs I was born into.
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ADE-doodles Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  Professional General Artist
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Look for non sequiturs. That's always fun.
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ThePirhana11 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hitler hated Jews because they didn't believe in Jesus. I thought everyone knew this.
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Hitler hated Jews because he needed a scapegoat to blame for Germany's woes. My great-grandfather was a Christian, but because he was half Jewish, he was sent to Auschwitz along with his brothers.
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toonlink682 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2014  Student Artist
Wait, I thought Hitler was a Jew... Isn't that WHY he started the holocaust? Also, as a German, I am a bit... Ashamed... Of my country's past... Even though I was born and raised in America... ^^;
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Hitler was a Catholic Austrian. If I remember correctly, he either had a grandparent or a great grandparent whose religion could not be accounted for, so he would not have passed his own test of "racial purity". 
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toonlink682 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Artist
Oh, okay... Thanks for clearing that up! ^^;
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Or it might have been his mother. Either way, he was raised Catholic.
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LumiereDarling Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist

I copy and pasted this article from Wikipedia (don't believe me look it up Adolf Hitler on their site and go to his religious views), it disagrees with you.

Hitler was born to a practising Catholic mother and an anticlerical father, but after leaving home Hitler never again attended Mass or received the sacraments.[358][359][360] Speer states that Hitler made harsh pronouncements against the church to his political associates and though he never officially left it, he had no attachment to it.[361] He adds that Hitler felt that in the absence of the church the faithful would turn to mysticism, which he considered a step backwards.[361] According to Speer, Hitler believed that either Japanese religious beliefs or Islam would have been a more suitable religion for the Germans than Christianity, with its "meekness and flabbiness".[362] Historian John S. Conway states that Hitler was fundamentally opposed to the Christian churches.[363] According to Bullock, Hitler did not believe in God, was anticlerical, and held Christian ethics in contempt because they contravened his preferred view of "survival of the fittest".[364] He favoured aspects of Protestantism that suited his own views, and adopted some elements of the Catholic Church's hierarchical organisation, liturgy, and phraseology in his politics.[365]

Hitler viewed the church as an important politically conservative influence on society,[366] and he adopted a strategic relationship with it that "suited his immediate political purposes".[363] In public, Hitler often praised Christian heritage and German Christian culture, though professing a belief in an "Aryan Jesus", one who fought against the Jews.[367] Any pro-Christian public rhetoric was at variance with his personal beliefs, which described Christianity as "absurdity"[368] and nonsense founded on lies.[369]

According to a U.S. Office of Strategic Services report, "The Nazi Master Plan", Hitler planned to destroy the influence of Christian churches within the Reich.[370][371] His eventual goal was the total elimination of Christianity.[372] This goal informed Hitler's movement very early on, but he saw it as inexpedient to express this extreme position publicly.[373] According to Bullock, Hitler wanted to wait until after the war before executing this plan.[374]

Speer wrote that Hitler had a negative view of Himmler's and Alfred Rosenberg's mystical notions and Himmler's attempt to mythologise the SS. Hitler was more pragmatic, and his ambitions centred on more practical concerns.[375][376]

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FullmetalKobe824 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014
Hitler may or may not have been a Christian. But one thing is certain for sure: He said all of what you cited in your description just to sway the German masses, who were predominantly Christians, to his side, to get their political support. Like how the Japanese politicians manipulated their Shinto religion to boost up their ultra-nationalistic cause. In other words, he was just like any other malicious, crafty politicians that have been around lying to us for their consolidation of power throughout history. 

And what the heck are you talking about? The Catholic Church as a whole was NEVER allied with the Nazis! I am no Catholic, but even I know this is an utter bullshit lie. When Italy was under control of Mussolini's fascists, Hitler was gearing up to smash Europe into a billion pieces and one of the worst horrors ever perpetrated was just around the corner. Pius XII took one look at the unfolding insanity and said "not on my watch" like a true badass he was. Although he started cautiously, by early 1940, he was mediating negotiations between British Intelligence and some pissed-off German high brass hoping to assassinate Hitler. He passed on sensitive coded information for the allies and, in 1942, became one of the few people in Europe to speak out against Hitler, using a radio address to explictly condemn the Nazi's racial cleansing program: "[The Nazis]...are in reality only miserable plagarists who dress old errors with new tinsel. It does not make any difference whether they flock to the banners of social revolution, whether they flock to the banners of social revolution, whether they are guided by a false concept of the world and of life, or whether they are possessed by the superstition of a race and blood cult." Amidst all of the chaos he even awesomely, helped shelter and ship HUNDREDS of Jews out of German reach! Sadly, he also failed to speak out against the slaughter of Catholics in Poland and may have known about the Nazi extermination program long before he did anything about it. Nevertheless, you can never deny that he was the only continental European leader to openly tell Hitler to go fuck himself through his action.

On a completely random note, maybe it's just me, but... why the hell does everyone talk about Hitler and the Nazis when it comes to the topic of WWII?!! What about those fucking Japanese imperialists?! Did World War II only occur in fucking Europe?! Why don't I hear any stamp about the Japanese war crimes that should be known to everyone? And say whatever you want, but I can confidently say that the Japanese imperialists were much, MUCH worse than the Nazis in any way and for good reasons! This site has indeed been infested by the hordes of white/American weeaboos with a shallow, narrow mind and perspective of things. 
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Stalin was an atheist and he was so cruel to the people of the rural areas in Eastern Europe the Nazis were treated as liberators of all things.
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TeutonicNursemaid Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014
Correct! 
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TheREALMisterDerp Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2014
But he wasn't a Christian, he was Catholic, so you're still labeling him wrong
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I Christian is anyone who believes that Jesus died to save our sins. 
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DemonFoxProductions Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
-_-

a Catholic IS a Christian...

the Christian religion is divided into 2 main categories.
Protestants and Catholics.

Catholic christians follow the laws of the pope.
Protestant christians do not.

Catholics also pray to saints...

That is the main difference.

other than that... they both follow the footsteps of the main prophet - Jesus.

So there you have it:
both are Christians.
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Libertades Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
He was a really bad one XD
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YouWonderWhyIAsk Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hitler did grow up catholic but was not Christian. He believed strongly in German Paganisem. He pretended to be catholic for a while because most of Germany at the time was Cathlic.
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xXLionqueenXx Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014   General Artist
Not true. Hitler's FAMILY was Catholic, just as most people from Austria. Hitler tried many religions in his life, never found "the right one" (umm... that pun wasn't intended...), exept that he was much into Hinduism, which influenced him a lot (the swastika - even though he pretended it was arune! -, and he was probably a Vegetarian)... He was barley faithful, even though wannabe spiritual. Christianity is Germany's main religion (apart from Judaism, of course) so Hitler tried to get Christians on his side. Plus, many noble and royal persons were on his side and they were ususally Christians. So yes, he was behind a huge "Christian" Nazi thing. Of course. But that as a tactic. Being a "Christian" was very important for getting followers in his time. 

Apart from that, you can say lots of bad things about the Roman Catholic church. But it is definitely NOT racist. In fact, most members are dark skinned *cough* And, of course, Jesus was actually jewish...

So,and even if he WAS a Christian. That would not make Christians Nazis. That wouldn't say ANYTHING against Christians or Christianity. So there is absolutely no sense in your stamp. It's nothing but an anti-religious trolling stamp. Apart from that, being a member of teh church won't make someone a Christian. he didn't have Christian qualities. He was a murderer, he was full of hate. He was definitely not a Christian in his heart.

But of course. Hitler wuz NOT atheeest... Of course not...


So, if you want to make a proper anti-religious stamp (if it's soooo imprtant for you....) come up with actual facts. And with LOGIC.

And his hate against homosexuals (I refuse to say "homophobia") did NOT come from his religion. It was just that he wanted people in a - for him - "perfect" way. Ad that was everything he wasn't. He killed dark people, disabled people, Jewish people, Polish people (even though Polish people are often blonde!), etc. because he was INSANE. And, well, because he was dark, probably Jewish (unknown...), short, sometimes fat/skinny/never fit, kind of disabled, had only one ball and because he was not really straight... He jsut wanted to kill all people that were a tiny bit like him. But I am not going to analyze Hitler. Just... it had NOTHING to do with religion.
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014  Student Writer
Why the Hell do you think Hitler wouldn't lie to get more people on his side?
And the Church isn't racist you ignorant bitch.
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014  Student Writer
Admitably that second part was a bit harsh.
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